Comments on: The Mets’ unfortunate history at 1B, LF, and RF in the aughts http://www.blueandorange.net/?p=942 Hoping for a Miracle since 2005 Mon, 30 Jan 2012 03:54:03 -0700 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: rct http://www.blueandorange.net/?p=942&cpage=1#comment-486299 rct Fri, 12 Feb 2010 00:42:33 +0000 http://www.blueandorange.net/?p=942#comment-486299 how is he a "well-below average" hitter? his career wOBA is .330 (granted, that includes his crazy 49 games of .386 BABIP in '08) and his CHONE projection for 2010 is just that -- .330. his marcel is even higher. like you said, he's only had five plate appearances in AAA, so wouldn't you expect him to get better with experience? he's 24 and not even in his prime yet. why would you expect him to put up the same numbers this year, when he'll actually have more experience, protection in the lineup, and guys on base (with reyes and bay being in the lineup)? and he's just learning 1B and is already pretty competent at it, so why wouldn't you expect that to improve, too? you're already comparing him favorably to doug mientkiewicz, who was great with the glove, so what's the problem? like i said, please reserve judgment awhile before you say he doesn't even belong on a major league roster. aside from this, this is a good article, though. i don't want to make it sound like i'm slamming your entire article, i just don't like all the murphy hate that been circling the mets blogosphere recently. how is he a “well-below average” hitter? his career wOBA is .330 (granted, that includes his crazy 49 games of .386 BABIP in ‘08) and his CHONE projection for 2010 is just that — .330. his marcel is even higher. like you said, he’s only had five plate appearances in AAA, so wouldn’t you expect him to get better with experience? he’s 24 and not even in his prime yet. why would you expect him to put up the same numbers this year, when he’ll actually have more experience, protection in the lineup, and guys on base (with reyes and bay being in the lineup)?

and he’s just learning 1B and is already pretty competent at it, so why wouldn’t you expect that to improve, too? you’re already comparing him favorably to doug mientkiewicz, who was great with the glove, so what’s the problem?

like i said, please reserve judgment awhile before you say he doesn’t even belong on a major league roster.

aside from this, this is a good article, though. i don’t want to make it sound like i’m slamming your entire article, i just don’t like all the murphy hate that been circling the mets blogosphere recently.

]]> By: Chris Wilcox http://www.blueandorange.net/?p=942&cpage=1#comment-486298 Chris Wilcox Thu, 11 Feb 2010 20:25:59 +0000 http://www.blueandorange.net/?p=942#comment-486298 The problem is, Murphy isn't a slightly below average hitter - he is a well-below average hitter. Throw in the fact that we simply don't know exactly how well he will play defensively over the long-haul at first base (he will probably remain good), and I think it's pretty safe to conclude that Daniel Murphy is not good enough to be a major league regular, particularly at first base. The fact is, Murphy had five plate appearances in AAA. FIVE. Judging by how poorly he played last year, he was clearly rushed to the majors. His future shouldn't be as Doug Mientkiewicz-light; he should be learning to play the outfield, playing some second base, and his best-case future is likely as a four-corners sub who might be able to play some 2B and CF as well. His outfield defense definitely could have used some time in Buffalo, and his bat clearly did not play at a major league level last year, so what am I missing on this guy? The problem is, Murphy isn’t a slightly below average hitter – he is a well-below average hitter. Throw in the fact that we simply don’t know exactly how well he will play defensively over the long-haul at first base (he will probably remain good), and I think it’s pretty safe to conclude that Daniel Murphy is not good enough to be a major league regular, particularly at first base.

The fact is, Murphy had five plate appearances in AAA. FIVE. Judging by how poorly he played last year, he was clearly rushed to the majors. His future shouldn’t be as Doug Mientkiewicz-light; he should be learning to play the outfield, playing some second base, and his best-case future is likely as a four-corners sub who might be able to play some 2B and CF as well. His outfield defense definitely could have used some time in Buffalo, and his bat clearly did not play at a major league level last year, so what am I missing on this guy?

]]> By: rct http://www.blueandorange.net/?p=942&cpage=1#comment-486297 rct Thu, 11 Feb 2010 17:04:09 +0000 http://www.blueandorange.net/?p=942#comment-486297 it's astounding to me that you can say that daniel murphy "does not belong in the majors". really? given the metrics you present in this article, he's a slightly below average hitter and a slightly above average fielder. doesn't that make him an average MLB player? i understand that his hitting isn't very good and it looks worse considering his position, but to say he doesn't even belong in the majors is hyperbole. besides, he's got only 1.5 years of major league experience (at a 103 OPS and having wOBA of 118 and 98, FWIW), and hitting takes longer to develop. we're stuck with him, at least early on, so give it a few months before you declare him to be unworthy of being on a major league roster. it’s astounding to me that you can say that daniel murphy “does not belong in the majors”. really? given the metrics you present in this article, he’s a slightly below average hitter and a slightly above average fielder. doesn’t that make him an average MLB player?

i understand that his hitting isn’t very good and it looks worse considering his position, but to say he doesn’t even belong in the majors is hyperbole.

besides, he’s got only 1.5 years of major league experience (at a 103 OPS and having wOBA of 118 and 98, FWIW), and hitting takes longer to develop.

we’re stuck with him, at least early on, so give it a few months before you declare him to be unworthy of being on a major league roster.

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