Jerry Manuel is a liar

Manuel responded on television, saying,  “We allowed the fewest baserunners and then threw out the most base runners. So there you go, Ozzie. But what you got to do Ozzie, you got to teach me how to tweet so I can get back to you. You don’t have to put me on blast.’’

David Lennon, Newsday

Leave it to Jerry Manuel to pull this website out of retirement.

Let’s start with the obvious: if the New York Mets had allowed the fewest baserunners in baseball AND threw out the most base runners, I don’t think Jerry Manuel would currently be an analyst for MLB Network. It’s also safe to assume that Sandy Alderson would still be working in the MLB front offices, the Mets would be the defending World Series champions, and would be generating so much money, Fred Wilpon wouldn’t have to explore selling the team because he’d be making a mint off of ticket sales and merchandise right now. Right off the bat, this one doesn’t come close to passing the smell test.

And of course, Jerry Manuel is wrong. The Mets did not, in fact, allow the fewest baserunners in baseball last year, or any year in which he was the manager. Take a look at the tables below. First, we’ll start with the 2008 Mets.

2008 Tm H BB HBP Base
1 TOR 1330 467 67 1864
2 LAD 1381 480 48 1909
3 TBR 1349 526 46 1921
4 ARI 1403 451 68 1922
5 CHC 1329 548 65 1942
6 LAA 1455 457 63 1975
7 CHW 1471 460 48 1979
8 BOS 1369 548 68 1985
9 MIL 1415 528 42 1985
10 OAK 1364 576 54 1994
11 HOU 1453 492 50 1995
12 MIN 1568 406 31 2005
13 NYY 1478 489 51 2018
14 CLE 1530 444 51 2025
15 KCR 1473 515 41 2029
16 PHI 1444 533 57 2034
17 STL 1517 496 51 2064
18 FLA 1421 586 58 2065
19 SDP 1466 561 38 2065
20 ATL 1439 586 42 2067
21 NYM 1415 590 70 2075
22 WSN 1496 588 51 2135
23 SFG 1416 652 70 2138
24 COL 1547 562 53 2162
25 CIN 1542 557 67 2166
26 SEA 1544 626 53 2223
27 DET 1541 644 68 2253
28 BAL 1538 687 80 2305
29 PIT 1631 657 49 2337
30 TEX 1647 625 72 2344

 This was the only Mets team that benefitted from a fully-healthy Johan Santana, and decent years out of Mike Pelfrey and Oliver Perez (and about 2/3 of a good season from John Maine) and still finished 21st in baserunners allowed thanks to an epic shithole of a bullpen. Of course, Jerry doesn’t deserve full blame for this one, as Willie Randolph managed for the first two months of the season before being fired at 7 AM Greenwich Mean Time. Then again (spoiler alert) this is the highest Mets pitchers will rank in baserunners allowed, so maybe Jerry will want to take full credit.

2009 Tm H BB HBP Base
1 SFG 1268 584 41 1893
2 LAD 1265 584 57 1906
3 STL 1407 460 53 1920
4 SEA 1359 534 43 1936
5 CHC 1329 586 59 1974
6 ATL 1399 530 49 1978
7 TBR 1421 515 46 1982
8 CHW 1438 507 41 1986
9 COL 1427 528 46 2001
10 NYY 1386 574 71 2031
11 TEX 1432 531 70 2033
12 PHI 1479 489 75 2043
13 OAK 1486 523 36 2045
14 ARI 1470 525 53 2048
15 CIN 1420 577 65 2062
16 MIN 1542 466 58 2066
17 SDP 1422 603 45 2070
18 FLA 1425 601 45 2071
19 DET 1449 594 41 2084
20 BOS 1494 530 68 2092
21 LAA 1513 523 58 2094
22 PIT 1491 563 47 2101
23 HOU 1521 546 50 2117
24 TOR 1509 551 58 2118
25 NYM 1452 616 55 2123
26 KCR 1486 600 51 2137
27 MIL 1498 607 65 2170
28 WSN 1533 629 48 2210
29 CLE 1570 598 45 2213
30 BAL 1633 546 51 2230

For all the talk of Citi Field being a pitcher’s park, it sure didn’t help the Mets finish very high in baserunners allowed – only 25th in 2009.

2010 Tm H BB HBP Base
1 SDP 1305 517 28 1850
2 OAK 1315 512 38 1865
3 TBR 1347 478 46 1871
4 PHI 1402 416 57 1875
5 ATL 1326 505 49 1880
6 SEA 1402 452 40 1894
7 SFG 1279 578 51 1908
8 LAD 1323 539 58 1920
9 MIN 1493 383 47 1923
10 STL 1412 477 48 1937
11 NYY 1349 540 62 1951
12 TEX 1355 551 63 1969
13 CIN 1404 524 50 1978
14 COL 1405 525 56 1986
15 CHW 1471 490 34 1995
16 TOR 1407 539 60 2006
17 WSN 1469 512 46 2027
18 FLA 1433 549 51 2033
19 LAA 1422 565 46 2033
20 HOU 1446 548 40 2034
21 BOS 1402 580 53 2035
22 NYM 1438 545 52 2035
23 DET 1445 537 65 2047
24 CHC 1409 605 65 2079
25 BAL 1508 520 59 2087
26 ARI 1503 548 58 2109
27 CLE 1477 572 66 2115
28 MIL 1487 582 48 2117
29 KCR 1553 551 47 2151
30 PIT 1567 538 66 2171

And last year, where the Mets “rebounded” to finish 22nd, the year Manuel claims they were first in the league. Here are the overall totals for the three seasons:

Total Tm H BB HBP Base
1 LAD 3969 1603 163 5735
2 TBR 4117 1519 138 5774
3 OAK 4165 1611 128 5904
4 STL 4336 1433 152 5921
5 ATL 4164 1621 140 5925
6 SFG 3963 1814 162 5939
7 PHI 4325 1438 189 5952
8 CHW 4380 1457 123 5960
9 SDP 4193 1681 111 5985
10 TOR 4246 1557 185 5988
11 MIN 4603 1255 136 5994
12 CHC 4067 1739 189 5995
13 NYY 4213 1603 184 6000
14 SEA 4305 1612 136 6053
15 ARI 4376 1524 179 6079
16 LAA 4390 1545 167 6102
17 BOS 4265 1658 189 6112
18 HOU 4420 1586 140 6146
19 COL 4379 1615 155 6149
20 FLA 4279 1736 154 6169
21 CIN 4366 1658 182 6206
22 NYM 4305 1751 177 6233
23 MIL 4400 1717 155 6272
24 KCR 4512 1666 139 6317
25 TEX 4434 1707 205 6346
26 CLE 4577 1614 162 6353
27 WSN 4498 1729 145 6372
28 DET 4435 1775 174 6384
29 PIT 4689 1758 162 6609
30 BAL 4679 1753 190 6622

So if by “allowed the fewest baserunners,” Jerry meant “13th in the National League and 22nd in baseball,” then yes, Jerry was correct, the Mets allowed the fewest baserunners.

But then I got to doing some thinking. Maybe Jerry just got his numbers mixed up:

2008 Tm H BB HBP Base
1 HOU 1432 449 52 1933
2 OAK 1318 574 48 1940
3 KCR 1507 392 50 1949
4 SFG 1452 452 48 1952
5 SEA 1498 417 38 1953
6 CIN 1351 560 50 1961
7 SDP 1390 518 53 1961
8 WSN 1376 534 67 1977
9 PIT 1454 474 59 1987
10 ARI 1355 587 49 1991
11 FLA 1397 543 69 2009
12 MIL 1398 550 69 2017
13 LAA 1486 481 52 2019
14 TOR 1453 521 59 2033
15 LAD 1455 543 43 2041
16 PHI 1407 586 67 2060
17 BAL 1486 533 42 2061
18 CHW 1458 540 63 2061
19 COL 1462 570 57 2089
20 CLE 1455 560 103 2118
21 NYY 1512 535 80 2127
22 MIN 1572 529 36 2137
23 TBR 1443 626 68 2137
24 DET 1529 572 44 2145
25 NYM 1491 619 39 2149
26 ATL 1514 618 42 2174
27 STL 1585 577 42 2204
28 CHC 1552 636 50 2238
29 TEX 1619 595 63 2277
30 BOS 1565 646 70 2281

A fine 2008 season from Mets hitters. They were 6th in times on base in 2008. No snarky comment from me about that. Sadly, it will not last.

2009 Tm H BB HBP Base
1 SFG 1411 392 50 1853
2 SEA 1430 421 49 1900
3 HOU 1415 448 43 1906
4 PIT 1364 499 46 1909
5 KCR 1432 457 42 1931
6 CIN 1349 531 53 1933
7 TEX 1436 472 37 1945
8 SDP 1315 586 57 1958
9 CHW 1410 534 62 2006
10 ARI 1408 571 37 2016
11 STL 1436 528 61 2025
12 NYM 1472 526 36 2034
13 OAK 1464 527 50 2041
14 DET 1443 540 61 2044
15 CHC 1398 592 59 2049
16 BAL 1508 517 39 2064
17 WSN 1416 617 56 2089
18 PHI 1439 589 71 2099
19 TOR 1516 548 45 2109
20 ATL 1459 602 52 2113
21 COL 1408 660 47 2115
22 FLA 1493 568 63 2124
23 TBR 1434 642 49 2125
24 MIL 1447 610 71 2128
25 CLE 1468 582 81 2131
26 MIN 1539 585 45 2169
27 LAD 1511 607 63 2181
28 LAA 1604 547 41 2192
29 BOS 1495 659 70 2224
30 NYY 1604 663 54 2321

The Mets go from having the sixth-most runners on base in 2008 to having the 12th-fewest runners on base in 2009. This is not what you would call a positive trend.

2010 Tm H BB HBP Base
1 SEA 1274 459 39 1772
2 HOU 1348 415 33 1796
3 PIT 1303 463 33 1799
4 LAA 1363 466 52 1881
5 TOR 1364 471 55 1890
6 NYM 1361 502 46 1909
7 BAL 1440 424 54 1918
8 WSN 1355 503 60 1918
9 SDP 1338 538 50 1926
10 CHC 1414 479 50 1943
11 LAD 1368 533 46 1947
12 SFG 1411 487 50 1948
13 OAK 1396 527 47 1970
14 CLE 1362 545 64 1971
15 FLA 1403 514 55 1972
16 ARI 1366 589 39 1994
17 CHW 1467 467 79 2013
18 KCR 1534 471 35 2040
19 STL 1456 541 50 2047
20 TBR 1343 672 57 2072
21 PHI 1451 560 63 2074
22 COL 1452 585 47 2084
23 ATL 1411 634 51 2096
24 MIL 1471 546 81 2098
25 DET 1515 546 41 2102
26 CIN 1515 522 68 2105
27 TEX 1556 511 45 2112
28 MIN 1521 559 39 2119
29 BOS 1511 587 47 2145
30 NYY 1485 662 73 2220

Thanks to on-base sinkholes like Jeff Francoeur and Rod Barajas, the Mets had the sixth-fewest baserunners in the majors last season, and the third-fewest in the National League. Sounds like Jerry had his numbers mixed up.

I don’t want to beat a dead horse. Jerry Manuel is gone, Omar Minaya is gone, the Mets have a new, smarter front office that doesn’t believe in giving away outs, or in giving the other team more opportunities to score. We are now in a time of healing, of moving forward, of looking towards a brighter day in the future (though some of that optimism may be tempered a bit by ownership uncertainty).

But when I see Jerry Manuel making comments like this on MLB Network, it brings me right back to these past two awful years. It brings me right back to Manuel throwing everybody in the organization under the bus and taking little to no blame for the problems with the team. It brings me back to Jerry’s passive-aggressive communication style that players clearly never liked. It just fills me with such negative thoughts during a time where optimism and positivity should reign, and reminds me why I should never watch MLB Network.

So, moral of the story: Don’t watch the MLB Network studio show unless you wish to become dumber.

As for the future of this website: it’s no secret that we haven’t exactly been banging out the content lately. The last thing I wrote was a troll post regarding Chris Carter being non-tendered by the Mets, and before that, I had started an objective takedown of the Omar Minaya years before losing interest, because I simply did not care to relive all of that nonsense.

After that, I just haven’t had anything interesting to say about Sandy Alderson. Obviously, I’m happy he is the GM, and that Omar Minaya is not. But I’m not sure I have a fresh take on things that hasn’t been said elsewhere, and this offseason’s transactions didn’t exactly provide bloggers with a ton to write about. As far as the Wilpon’s financial woes, I don’t claim to be any sort of financial expert or lawyer so I couldn’t even begin to offer a clear opinion what’s going on with that whole situation.

I do have an idea for a piece on Alderson that I will try to write next week, as it would be the first thing written about Sandy since he was hired and it seems long overdue to get something up about him. I want to get more items up here, but at this point, I don’t have the time or the inspiration for daily posts. I will continue to write things on a “when I get around to it” basis, and would like to “get around” to more things more frequently than “once every six months.” Hopefully, actual baseball will give me more writing inspiration. 

Failing that, I could always just watch MLB Network and wait for Jerry Manuel to say something dumb. We’ll see what happens, but don’t remove this site from your bookmarks/RSS reader just yet.

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